we will let metalhed tell him,while you and me go and get some tea and scones.

Brilliant Idea brother, pass me the jam please, mmmmm, milk, no sugar thanks Steve

Be sure to videotape that fight, I for one would like to see it.

Actually sustained steroid use will cause some testicular shrinkage, but if you supplement with a few mcg of human chorionic gonadotropin it keeps the HTPA and the rest of your endocrine system running perfectly. Literally zero negative side effects.

Using anabolic androgenic steroids isn't just jabbing yourself with a needle and hoping for the best. It is at its worst, its learning how to manipulate your endocrine system to maintain a positive nitrogen balance in order to achieve hyperplasia.

I wish I could find the studies published, but AAS when used correctly are less dangerous than cigarettes.

What about HGH?

or just supplements like creatine and whey protein

You have to be careful with HGH and IGF-1. You can do localized injections with IGF-1 up to 30 minutes after exercise, but you have to inject bilaterally (left side, right side) into the muscles that you worked while the receptors are fresh. If you just start pinning at random, you'll soon find that your intestines have THE HIGHEST concentration of receptors in your body. That is to say you will be the proud owner of HUGE guts for the rest of your life. Do it correctly, and it will cause myoplasia i.e. the dividing of muscle cells that are mature and ready to use/grow in about 4-6 months.

HGH can cause bone growth, particularly in the mandible, nose, and hands. Overuse/abuse this, and you'll start looking like an ogre.

HGH is sort of 'old school' and not used in the bodybuilding scene much if at all.

IGF-1 is legal and used readily. Its also used in some treatments for kids with pituitary disorders if I remember correctly.

I saw the Simpsons where Ken Griffey Jr. took IGF and he got elephantitus in the head

Thats funny because IGF-1 only attaches to receptors of IGF-1, which....are only in skeletal muscles and the intestines. Not bones, not nerves, not penis muscle, heart muscle etc.

HGH will cause bone growth though.

maybe thats what he took. I forgot. I just know his head got big and he looked funny

Wih supplements like creatine and protein you have to basically keep your water intake high to flush the kidneys. The extra compounds can take their toll on the kidneys especially. When I'm taking in 250g of Protein a day along with 10g of Creatine I'm drinking nearly 2 gallons of water a day.

And, you always want to cycle your supplements. 4-6 weeks on, take 2 weeks off.

Any thing hormonal such as prosteroids, orally active steroids (17a, 17aa etc), prohormones, and anabolic androgenic steroids, typically you will run a cycle 'calculated' for that compound ranging anywhere from 4 weeks on with 8-12 weeks off, to running indefinitely when stacked with the appropriate support and ancillary supplements.

We had a "trainer" come in to talk about getting big for football. He said your weight +100 grams of protein (so someone weighing 150lbs. should take 250 grams of protein), and that dairy isnt "required"

Your bodyweight in grams is sufficient. Any more and you just have expensive piss.

For the foot ball, I'd say protein, creatine, and work your ass off. At your age, you have THE BEST hormones for putting on size unless you have some sort of endocrine problem.

They'll be that way until about 23, then you'll have to work harder, train more efficiently, and calculate more what you eat, and when.

It becomes less 'fun' and more 'science' the older you get.

Hey nice to see your still posting... I was hoping you hadnt roid raged and off'ed a bus full of people.. heh

Heh. Believe it or dont, but the gym has been my sanctuary here the last year or so. If not for the gym I'd probably go nuts.

The only way I'd off a bus full of people would be if it were full of politicians.

Maybe he didn't do it for the girls *wink*Mino thinks all girl bodybuilders are lesbians sooooo maybeeeee.....